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kimya Mod Queen
Posts : 177 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 42 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Yaoi, the good and the bad Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:22 pm | |
| So, I watched this Papa to Kiss in the Dark last night. I have to say I was mildly disturbed. I mean it was kind of hot, but the fact that the kid, Mira? Was really disappointed when he found out that they weren't related then happy when he found out they were....yeah, Disturbing.
So, I decided to DL Yami No Matsuei since I never finished watching it. Oh, and I bought the first 3 loveless manga. I read up to volume 5 at some point but that was forever ago. I figure if I buy the manga's then it'll be easier to keep track of where I am.
Oh! And at MetroCon there was an AMV contest and someone did a live action AMV of Loveless and it was so good and sad. I'll see if I can find the link and I'll post it here. | |
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Bloody day
Posts : 18 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 32 Location : LA
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:21 pm | |
| Hmmm I finished Yami No Matsuei... I liked it... Have you seen Gravitation that's yaoi I'm not into Yaoi i'm more of a Yuri..=] | |
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Lou
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 54 Location : De Nile
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:29 pm | |
| If you think Papa to Kiss in the DArk is disturbing you should not watch boco no pico or either of the ones that follow. They freaked me out so badly that I actually *gasp* DELETED them from my hard drive rather than shift them to disk. *shudders*
And you saw some of the other "classic" yaoi at ACEN. Ye gods Blue Wolves has to be one of the worst. Though the "corn" one isn't really any better.
I really love Yami no Matsuei, but it's not yaoi. It's barely shounen-ai actually, but the story is sooo good.
Loveless still weirds me out though I do love it still. I keep hoping it will have a happy ending, but I know it can't possibly. | |
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Bloody day
Posts : 18 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 32 Location : LA
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:36 pm | |
| I haven't heard of Papa to Kiss ?
And my friend keeps telling me about Loveless she's a freak about it =]
Oh I didn't know about yami no matsuei just being shounen-ai... Makes sense is not as heavy as others... | |
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Akiahara Admin
Posts : 246 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 39 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:08 pm | |
| i love yami no matsuei. i'm so pissed that it's never been finished, and probably never fucking will be. i understand some hiatuses, but three years? just say it's been discontinued and that's that. what's the name of the corn anime???? loveless... le sigh... <3<3<3<3<3<3<3 papa to kiss in the dark was... a little creepy, i thought. i mean, i'm all fine and well with incest, half the time it's one of my kinks (you know, i actually had a few naughty thoughts about nathan and peter from heroes, then mentally slapped myself )... but papa to kiss in the dark has no reason for it. it's creepy that he's all unhappy when he finds out that blonde bishie man isn't his real father... BUT, lou's right, that's incredibly mild... boku no pico and pico to chico are way worse. i don't delete anything that i don't have to (you know, for space), so i have most of the stuff i've watched on disc... i also just plain deleted both of those. watched them and burned them. the banana... god... the HORROR. i think pico to chico is actually worse, too. UGH. the corn anime! i didn't even have to look it up - i remembered, but of course i couldn't last night. boku no sexual harassment! i thought that scene was epic myself... still have yet to see the whole thing. i DID watch fake last night, though.......... DUBBED. GROSS. DO NOT WANT. it was sooooooo bad. | |
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Lou
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 54 Location : De Nile
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:34 pm | |
| Oh I LOVE Fake!! Though I've never seen it dubbed. Kizuna is actually one of my favorites of the classics. I think i"ve seen all the old school stuff becuase they uased to have it all on youtube eons back when I first started watching yoai streaming.
The third boco movie is WORSE! Ye gods I have NO CLUE why after number 2 that I even watched it, but it was like a train wreck I couldn't look away. The HORROR! | |
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Akiahara Admin
Posts : 246 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 39 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:55 pm | |
| you love fake? WHY?! it was BAD. i mean, they make out a little bit and that's it? and the art is sooooo bad. i totally thought it was a more serious show, too. the cover makes it look all RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH, but it's really WE'RE 'TARDED LETZ BUTTSECKZ. and then no follow through. wait, a third pico movie? one that's actually worse than pico to chico? that's possible? | |
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Lou
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 54 Location : De Nile
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:08 pm | |
| I like the little mystery to Fake and I thought it was really cute, but It's been at least 2 years since i last watched it. The manga is supposed to be excellent for the cop stories and the realistic depiction of a gay relationship is supposed to be really well done. I've always just had a little resistance to the art. It's that 80's manga art with the pointy faces that i've never been too thrilled with.
Yes the third movie adds another little homeless boy to the mix. It's... gag inducing and a bit frightening that someone actually thought this was a worthy storyline. | |
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Akiahara Admin
Posts : 246 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 39 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:16 pm | |
| well, hell, i'm going to have to check out this scary third one now. it'll have to wait for DLing capabilities again, but i won't be able to resist. though i do have kizuna and legend of the blue wolves still to watch, thanks to serenity. buuuuuuuuuuuuut, i don't have any of my anime with me, so no yaoi for me at the moment. | |
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Lou
Posts : 100 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 54 Location : De Nile
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:25 pm | |
| Wait why don't you have any anime with you?
If you watch pico 3 make sure you haven't eaten anything recently.
The legend of the Blue wolves is so bad. Not only is the rape scene gross, but the storyline is random and pointless. I had to read up a bit on it to even understand the point of the story.
My Sexual Harassment is... disturbing. I mean it's bascially a form of noncon all through the movie, but they guy just takes it as if it's his lot in life. I found it icky beyond the corn scene.
If I looked up my list I'm sure I could find some other really bad yaoi anime. Though the new one aarinfantasy subbed is MAiden Rose and it was... awful. What is it with falling in love withthe guy who rapes you? How is that attractive? Maybe it's just me, but I decided not to keep it after watching. | |
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kimya Mod Queen
Posts : 177 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 42 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:59 pm | |
| I loved what I read of loveless I hope I can get all of the manga books that are out. Its so different having the actual manga then it is reading it online. Its much more convenient. I've never seen Boku no Sexual harrassment except for the corn scene we saw at Acen. I'd like to see the whole thing though. Legend of the Blue wolves...I saw part of that, but now that I know the 2 guys never hook up I probably won't bother finishing it. I haven't seen Pico to Chico or boku no pico. They sound crazy so I'll have to check them out. I have the first volume of the Fake manga. But I don't remember what happened in it since there's no sex. by the way - Quote :
- the cover makes it look all RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH, but it's really WE'RE 'TARDED LETZ BUTTSECKZ.
fucking best line ever!! Yami no Matsuei is done DLing so I'll hopefully start watching that this week some time. I'm also browsing through the disks that Serenity sent and checking stuff out. There is so much Yaoi manga on there I'm almost overwhelmed. | |
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angel fangs
Posts : 56 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 34 Location : uk
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:25 am | |
| i have a complaint about the okane ga nai manga!!! there has been no sex for the last few chapters!!! and ayase is over-stepping the boundries of uke-ness!!! me no likes!!! the whole point of okane ga nai is it is constant sex!!! without that what does it have??? a few bishies and an okama!!! kimya, i love loveless, but it always puzzles me when it's label yaoi!!! cos it's mostly not!!! i luffles loveless and can't wait for the next volume to be released in england!!! | |
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kimya Mod Queen
Posts : 177 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 42 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:13 am | |
| See, I can't really get into Okane ga nai. Ayase is too girly for me. It's almost like reading/watching het. I like both boys to be as masculine as possible, that makes it so much hotter to me.
I haven't read all of loveless but I'm guessing the male/male romance is what labels it yaoi. It's probably more shounen-ai than yaoi though I guess since to my knowlege there's no sex.
Yami no Matsuei finished DLing yesterday so I"m hoping to get to watching it this week.
I'm also about to read Honey Spiral Boys on my yaoi manga DVD. I've heard good things about it so I'm looking forward to it. | |
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Akiahara Admin
Posts : 246 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 39 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:02 am | |
| lou - i let a friend borrow all my anime to rip to her computer. XD you know, she joined the forum, but i see she hasn't been brave enough to join us in discussion yet. XD oh, man, the rape scene was epic, though! castration, YES! i thought that was rad. see... non con... is totally okay with me. yami no matsuei is so good, but it's not actually BL, it's just... borderline. like it SHOULD be BL, but it's not. i had to get rid of the manga due to computer space, but i always wondered if the manga had more in it, or if it was an anime only thing... or... what. loveless is never really classified "yaoi", i think we all just fall into the habit of using yaoi as an umbrella term. i'd say that loveless could easily be real BL if ritsuka wasn't so young, but i think anything beyond the kissing that there already is would majorly squick out american audiences. but if it were to show ritsuka older, i could see it happening. there are canon gay characters... that helps the genre, too. i just wanna know when the bloody hell volume 9 is gonna be out. it's been FOREVER since 8 was released. kim, there's absolutely no sex in loveless. i think there's... a flashback... where you get the idea what' happening and when soubi lost his ears... but that's it. ritsuka is just too young when compared to soubi. soubi does mention taking his ears, though. ugh, i hate okane ga nai. one, it follows the yaoi formula to a T, two, the art is weird, and three, ayase isn't a guy. he's a girl. that's all there is to it. and, and, and... IT'S MY ISHIDA QUOTE! RESURRECTED! YES! damn, after reading that again, i can see why it's... uhhhh... a little dirty. i kinda want to draw something based on it. like ishida... mostly naked licking his fingers. now.. what's on his fingers...?! | |
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kimya Mod Queen
Posts : 177 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 42 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:22 pm | |
| Well I figured there would be no sex in Loveless. But I really enjoyed the anime and I remember enjoying the manga very well.
I feel exactly like you do about Okane ga Nai. Its annoying and I don't like it.
I know Yami no Matsuei isn't really yaoi, but again the story is good. And it has hints of BL in it in my opinion.
I'm fine with noncon too, in the manga/anime form. lol.
And yes the quote has been revived!! I love this quote so much. Its good to have a place where I can have this in my sig. | |
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Akiahara Admin
Posts : 246 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 39 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:36 pm | |
| i should make you a better signature. XD | |
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kimya Mod Queen
Posts : 177 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 42 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:55 pm | |
| Dude!! Go for it! I was thinking of pairing that quote with your bondage Ishida picture. | |
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Akiahara Admin
Posts : 246 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 39 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:06 pm | |
| nooooo... ishida liking something off his fingers... or an orange head placed strategically at ishida's crotch. | |
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kimya Mod Queen
Posts : 177 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 42 Location : Orlando, FL
| Subject: Re: Yaoi, the good and the bad Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:50 pm | |
| Ohh.... or a head of red hair....I love RenIshi... | |
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